Wednesday, November 14, 2007

Raising my daughter to be a keeper at home: Maybe, maybe not!

Raising Daughters to be Keepers at Home


Recently in blog land there has been a good deal of discussion over whether daughters should be sent to college and prepared for careers or if they should be trained to be keepers at home and remain in their parents’ home until marriage. A lot of prayer and thought has gone into these posts.

The Scriptural Authority for daughters remaining at home seems to be found here:

3 "When a woman makes a vow to God and binds herself by a pledge as a young girl still living in her father's house, 4 and her father hears of her vow or pledge but says nothing to her, then she has to make good on all her vows and pledges. 5 But if her father holds her back when he hears of what she has done, none of her vows and pledges are valid. God will release her since her father held her back. 6 "If she marries after she makes a vow or has made some rash promise or pledge. (Numbers 30:3-6, The Message)


I must be just plain stupid, but I don’t see how this really relates to keeping a young woman from a life of her own. As I have said in the comments I’ve posted in response to some of these posts, I fully, 100% respect their right to pray for such a life for their daughters, to desire such a life for their daughters and even to plan for such a life. HOWEVER, unlike many of the parents out there who have been strongly influenced by Bill Gothard and ATI/IBLP or Vision Forum or similar organizations, I do not presume to know what course my wonderful daughter’s life will take. God, on the other hand does know:

For I know the plans I have for you," declares the LORD, "plans to prosper you and not to harm you, plans to give you hope and a future.Jeremiah 29:10-12 (The Message)

I try to imagine the vanity and pride that lead parents to boast so knowingly of what God has in store for their daughters! (Especially when their daughters are not even teenagers!!) Show me where the Bible says “sit home and do your folk's housework and let the world pass you by.” I understand that I am exaggerating this for effect! Yes, I know that those young ladies are “free” to do Christian works, needlework, run a business from home [apparently after her father has approved it.] Good grief! In Proverbs 31 We are told of a very industrious, business-minded woman—not a timid wife who waits for a man to hand her a “to-do list” for the day!

I laughed when I saw how Discovery had “repackaged” the Duggars to make them seem more “mainstream.” Each of the big girls has a stated “career” goal. Except the joke is on Discovery—the girls each named one of the very few “occupations” open to them via ATI/IBLP and Bill Gothard. I’m all for girls being nurses or midwives or hair stylists—if that’s their choice. Not if it’s the lesser of the evils available to them.

The notion that a young woman today can grow up so totally sheltered that college could jar her out of her well-honed beliefs is scary. Yes, Scary. If we as parents have done our job in “training up our children” then there reaches a point where they must try LIFE. Go out and live “in the world” but not become “of the world.” I totally applaud recent efforts to encourage modesty, abstinence and general good manners. It’s about time on all of that. But saying that a young woman could be harmed by a “godless boss” tells me her parents didn’t bring her up with enough “street smarts.” Or that she needs to run home and ask Daddy before she makes a decision--what kind of helpless ninny do you want her to be?! Parents like this haven't let their daughter have the kind of formative experiences that let her test God’s love, protection and guidance. No one sees a Godless boss or College as necessarily harming to a young man—as long as he is in college to learn to support a family!

The whole issue of “oversheltering” Christian kids is part of what gives us as a group a bad reputation among the unchurched. Along with discussions that appear idiotic from the outside [such as “Trick or Treating is just fun” or is it “Devil Worshp?”) the whole idea of cocooning our kids at home with only their siblings [ala the Duggars] looks to the rest of the world like a Freak Show. It puts off seekers, too, who fear they will never be “Perfect Enough” for any Church—let alone for Eternal Life.

Today I came across an excellent discussion of this problem of oversheltering our kids here:

http://www.crosswalk.com/blogs/PCoughlin/11557947/

How can a young woman carry out the Great Commission if she is to go no further afield than the house she grew up in? How will she be a defender of her faith if she never meets anyone outside of that faith?? Sorry, folks, but I want more than this for my daughter!!! I know our lives on Earth are but a blip on the eternal radar and cannot come close to the joy we will all find in Heaven, but I want more for her!!!!

God has blessed my daughter not only with deceptive charm and fleeting beauty, but also with an excellent BRAIN! I would sincerely hope she would rebel with all her might if I tried to foist such a life on her!! How many daughters raised to be purely “Keepers at Home “ will rebel—in harmful ways??? I’d be interested in how many MySpace and Facebook profiles are made by kids who have chucked Mom and Dad’s beliefs for what they see as “Freedom?” How many single Moms out there are raising kids alone because their parents tossed them out for having sex [and embarrassing them]? How many will enter gay unions to spite their parents? How many girls will unnecessarily suffer depression and withdraw from life from having boundaries meant for a toddler imposed on them when they are young adults? How many will become stereotyped as "old maiden aunties" from not circulating widely enough among their own age group to find a suitable husband? How many will not marry because of the exalted standards imposed by the most high-minded of “courtship only” parents? How many will cut their hair and flee and ditch their Biblical names for something more worldly that lets them hide? Even the Amish acknowledge rebellion is often necessary to becoming fully accepting of God’s dominion over all.

What I fear most in all these homes is an undercurrent trying to move us as Christians to a Theocracy—a “Christian State.” “What’s wrong with that?” A LOT. We in America are freer to express ourselves than anywhere else on Earth. We SHOULD praise God for that freedom. I don’t want to go back to a mythical place in time in which supposedly women happily submitted in all things to her husband, gave him all her earnings or property and her vote, to spend her life having child after child whether she wanted them or not. Should a woman truly choose this then FINE!!! But, don’t raise girls thinking this is all they can have!!!

I also have a problem with legalistic dress codes. I don’t “get” that either!! I know we are not to dress as men and vise-versa. Still, why are skirts to your ankles and big blouses the only acceptable garments? Swimming in a jumper and blouse?? Give me a break!!! And how come men can’t just keep their own thoughts under control—why is it the fault of the woman????? Why not just wear Burkhas and have our 11 year old sons drive us like in Saudi Arabia? Why not unite with Saudi Arabia and keep women away from all men not in their own families!! I lived in a country where the dictator ordered women only to wear long skirts. Guess what—you can do most things just fine in a skirt. Except flee an attacker. Surely modesty and decency are possible in other forms of attire as well. We don't all dress like hookers even if we don't wear a long skirt.

So, uber-legalistic parents, I don’t believe you when you say you “know” what your daughters lives will be!! I do know that right now, at age 11, my daughter has excellent plans:

To be a Bearcat Cheerleader!!
To be a hair stylist and nail lady
To work at this while going to college (and part-time afterwards)
To be an art teacher and artist
To drive a VW Bug convertfble or a PT Cruiser convertible
To write Christian Music
To get married and adopt children!

She’d like to teach in a Christian School and does not plan to move out on her own—she knows Christian Schools pay poorly so she plans to teach and live with me! I’m 100% behind this plan because

1. She Chose it!
2. I know her plans will change often in the next 7 years or so!

Obviously, she will have a tough time getting married though with no father to approve her choice! [Don’t get me going again!!!]

I expect some of the flames I get for this to be the temperate or the recent wildfires. Mind you, these are my own opinions. In America you are still free to have your own as well. Let’s keep it that way!

14 comments:

Amie said...

I agree with you! I went to college and I'm SO glad I did. If my daughter wants to go, I have no problem with that. All I pray is that she becomes a Christian woman and she will have just as much access to the Bible as me and SHE can decide what it means be that.

Anonymous said...

I agree also! My daughter (who made her decision for Christ a few years ago) has stated numerous times that she does not want to have children of her own, as she wants to adopt. She wants to pursue a career in science or engineering. She isn't sure about marriage (her father left when she was 3). I don't know what God has planned for her, but I trust Him.

Becky said...

I'm so glad to hear you say this. While I never lost my faith, I had lost my interest in communicating it to anyone due to the level of hypocrisy and limited thinking of professed Christians I've met. My minister father taught me to think for myself, and that is what I teach my daughter. God gave us a mind and free will. To place such limits on a person denies the very nature of His creation. The choices are ours to make, and His love leads us and catches us when we fall.

Leonie said...

Wow! Very powerful - and I am with you! I don't have any daughters but have always disagreed with the keeping girls at home, no university for girls, over legalistic dress code ideas....

Anonymous said...

I agree with you! God gave us all free will, sheltering our children whether they be boys or girls, is doing them and God a disservice. I homeschool my three boys, but they see plenty of the world and it's challenges. How else are they going to learn to stand up for their beliefs, or see the consequences for bad choices. I think that we need to teach our children our family values, how to care for the family and home, all of that, but in the end it has to be their choice and God's will.

April C.

BethNY said...

I vote for "live and let live"; meaning, I guide my children as God directs me without feeling the need to speak negatively about the choices of others to justify my own decisions. They answer to God for their lives, and so do I. The Bible encourages us not to compare ourselves with one another, and I think it is in poor taste to be critical of others, particularly of our brothers and sisters in Christ. I also feel it adds a bitter, uncharitable tone to your blog. I am sure that you do not see yourself as being better, wiser, smarter than others believers, but this post makes it sound as if you do! God warns that we will give an account of every idle word that we speak--and I think such criticisms are idle words. My lifestyle is not like the Duggars-we do homeschool, but we wear jeans, my daughters and I have dreadlocks, LOL! We look quite different from the Duggars. But I would encourage you to live and let live. Share about your life without pointing out how your choices are wiser and better than the choices that others are making.
~~Written in Christian love...

Hopewell said...

Hi Beth--thanks for stopping by and for sharing your comments. I certainly do not try to be bitter! I'm just another imperfect Christian striving to live my life. Sorry if I seemed bitter--it's probably just a "humor misfire." Trying to lighten it a little. Still, I always appreciate anyone taking time not only to read but to share comments, concerns, questions!! Have a great New Year!

Civilla said...

I cherish my college education, even though I am not a career woman, but a SAHM.

You know, there is a lot of advice out there on the Christian women's blogs about how to live in the 1800's, but we live NOW! Hopefully, some of us can give advice on how a Christian woman should live NOW! How do we navigate through this world, touch others for Christ, and remain unspotted by the world? Surely not by running away and hiding!

As far as our children go, don't we know that any GENUINE faith is going to be tested? Even our childrens' faith?

Civilla said...

I've spent a lot of years griping about how the churches I attended were not spiritual enough, the Christian college I attended was not Christian enough, the Christian ladies I have been around were not good enough examples, etc.

No, none of these things or people were perfect. What happened is that during my young Christian life, MY FAITH WAS TESTED! Duh. I am finally realizing that nothing is perfect, and I cannot go through life constantly blaming my problems on imperfect people. Why should we expect God to put us in places where our faith is never tested? Satan asked Jesus for permission to sift Peter like wheat. Jesus granted it, and told Peter that when he returned, he should strengthen his brethren. My faith is stronger because of the things I have been through. Others can say the same.

P.S. I'm not talking about true spiritual abuse, nor am I blaming victims of it. That is different. There are plenty of spiritual abusers out there who take advantage of weak or young people, or people going through a crisis. We need to help victims of spiritual abuse.

Heidi said...

I would also argue that it is unwise to plan for a daughter to live always with her parents if she doesn't marry. She is likely to outlive them, and it would be good if she can support herself.

There are many college majors that are still useful for for a stay-at-home mom, should she become one: home economics, business (assuming it teaches you to run organizations, which would include a household), and my very favorite: science! I majored in Genetics and Cell Biology, and I use it every time I take the kids to the pediatrician, whenever I consider whether or not to get my kids vaccinated, when I read news articles about global warming...and the list goes on. I think a biology major might just be the most useful major available for a wife and mother.

Ganeida said...

God has put a missionary call on my daughter's life & I should stop this because she is a single woman? Somehow I don't think so.

Hopewell said...

Ganeida--If God calls the answer is "Send Me" Happy for your daughter! Hope she goes!

Pebblekeeper said...

Although I got married early - I had been in the Coast Guard for two years - and we waited 8 years to have children - while I became a Legal Secretary , an Engineering Project Manager - and ended up working to grant a tribe federal recognition and build a reservation/health clinic/and the money maker a Casino. We've traveled. We've camped. We've had Tons of money. We've been in debt to our eye balls.

I feel that all of my experiences is what makes me such a great keeper of the home now. I would hope at some point our children would enjoy God's creation together - newly wed, or single traveling.

But good gravy. The poor girl was just in the house for 18 years doing your chores - now her only great hope in life is to live 18 more and do it again? Give the gal a break. :)

I really enjoy my life now - homeschooling and being that KOH, But I still pursue my interest, keep my personality - and am building skills to go out into the world when the boys leave the nest. :)

Anonymous said...

Love what you said and agree whole heartedly....The humor helps keep it light. I chose not to have children. Never wanted any. My husband agreed. I wanted to teach school and felt I could not do both well as I had seen working mothers come home too tired to take care of their kids.

But I faced lots of judgement from other christians and myself because of my choices. According to Gothard, I was sinning. Besides the college degree and working as a teacher outside the home, tI was also sinning because I wore pants (do not like dresses or any girly stuff) owned and rode horses, had several pets (cats and dogs) and did minimal if any house work. It took prayer and fasting to reach God and He told me my only sin was not having faith in Him to live the life He had given me and be the self He had made me to be. God does not make cookie cutter christians.